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Secret new weapons and equipment in China, the four super-tasteless
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In recent years, resulting in an urgent situation, driven by strong demand in the promotion of national economic and scientific progress, China's military research and military technology have made great progress in strength. All kinds of new equipment, such as "blowout" the general fast-emerging, covering land, sea, air, space, call (warfare) as well as logistical support ... ... to say that after the 1996 Taiwan Strait crisis, particularly after the 1999 embassy bombing these stereotypes of military equipment over new equipment types of fear, and for decades before the founding.

However, excitedly, we have to see: or limited skills, or entangled in the guiding ideology behind, or because of lack of demand for rigorous proof, our military out of a lot of new equipment installed, there are some outstanding problems, serious the formation of combat effectiveness and improvement of military struggle. Which even some "exposure" very high main battle equipment, into a "tasteless but wasteful to discard," the embarrassing situation. Not to mention human, material and financial resources to waste, the equipment on the battlefield if the "ball dropped," the consequences would be unthinkable.

I think this pick four relatively obvious defects in a brief analysis of main equipment, reviews, for the state Military Industry Tidianyijian. Limited knowledge, will be inadequate, welcome to explore.

First statement: "chicken" is not equal to the waste, the equipment will never talk about is nothing, there will be analysis of the text, you heroes will also self-identification.

First, the greatest number of ribs: 95 automatic rifle

95 automatic rifle stands QBZ-95 automatic rifle (Q, B, Z respectively, as "light, step, from the" phonetic abbreviation of "self" for automatic weapons), when ready to replace the 81-round as standard equipment, style automatic rifles. It was finalized in 1996, when the 1997 return of Hong Kong as the Hong Kong Garrison of the standard weapons first public appearance.

Automatic rifles as the new style, just when we played shines; as the "human effect" rather poor shot, when a larger range of equipment, the one used under the eyes of a black people!

(In fact, much like the shape of the French rifle FAMAS, but the FAMAS F1 Younger than 17 years; and the internal structure is different)

This was once touted as "the world's advanced level" of the gun, it's not without merit, its accuracy, range and other properties still can be pleasant to the eye, or even relying on 5. 8mm bullet energy inherent advantages, penetration ability but also wins a lot of little 5. 56mm were gun. Black rifle in the "human effect", and eventually became a generation of "chicken."

Now it seems that even experienced a large area of Depot renovation and many small improvements, the army has given up 81-style dress with its idea of a comprehensive, only part of the column mounted special forces. Less successful as the Type 95, also had automatic rifles to launch 03 "backside"; happens too many 03-style problems, said type being developed by ... ... 05

Incidentally, 03 of 87 type and style a decade ago 5. 8mm rifle (not officially listed equipment) can be considered for 5. 8mm diameter, 81-style, in other words, China's squad automatic rifles were designed around the circle, after a decade of white; if counting from the Type 81, 20 years after a white (of course technology, materials, details a lot of progress.)

95 automatic rifles, many of the problems is a common problem without prop guns, main battle rifle hastily will not care as structure, at least not sufficient proof. Although the technical content of an automatic rifle as fighter jets, destroyers, nuclear warheads, high, as the equipment capacity, is also a need for cautious thing. Result, China's "20 years of sword" (1971, demonstration classes with a small caliber rifle), until it has a large section of detours.


How about the rifle smoke, noise, abuse of the PLA soldiers; how long the clip, to mention the high risk to the user As; how to put the bolt in the handle to make life difficult for the operator ... ... we can find information on their own (such as multi- see "light weapons" magazine and firearms website), and here I will not say more.

I am now concentrating a boom boom sector of light weapons, long-popular "lightweight paranoia", that is one-sided emphasis on weapons of "light", and even this influence the conduct of the weapons: operational effectiveness.

Light weapons, our military has always been a very valued weight; weapons research and development unit also like to show off their arms than with the similar two-light a few a few money. This is mainly because the army long-term low level of mechanization, man heavy load. "Seek light" is not a bad thing, no matter what country, what kind of weapons, other conditions being equal, we probably all want to seriously. Unfortunately, many of China's development of "light" weapons is not technically in the lighter than what a major breakthrough in the international counterparts, but with a similar "cut corners" approach to reduce the expense of operational effectiveness, "seek light." 95 type (including many of our small arms) of the barrel is thin, fat will continue to fire dozens of red hot, behind many stressed that "sustained combat capability," the Western name of the gun; As it had very thin, fragile stand Gengrang User tears ... ... Do not think that as long as the thickening of the barrel, reinforced tripod will solve the problem, which related to the center of mass balance of the whole gun, just start all over again to really solve.

Specific to the Type 95 rifle, lightweight, reflect deeper problems is to design ideological confusion: "No prop gun" has portable, mobile, more in the limited space (cars, boats, machines) in the use and advantages of the rapid up and down , that forces a high degree of mechanization and equipment more fully the reasons for it; and mechanized forces a high degree of weight is not very sensitive, why should that affect the province of a few operational effectiveness of two weight? Recognized rifle designed in the end do not agree with raising the level of military mechanization of it?

In fact, sustained combat capability can be achieved through the rapid replacement of the barrel, many classes of Europe have the ability to use light weapons, but unfortunately the Chinese it is known as "reach the world advanced level" of small arms industry can not do this (for materials, design and precision machining high). Moreover, let alone bring a spare barrel will reduce the weight of the.

All new guns made, only QCW05 type 5. 8mm silenced submachine guns and truly embodies the "no prop gun" advantage. "No prop gun" the shortcomings of the submachine gun is insignificant. 05 micro-impulse pleasing, excellent performance, great personality (I especially like the unique 4-row magazine) ... ... here is not small table. (QCW is "light", "red", "micro," the phonetic abbreviation)

Second, the years "cast" of the ribs: F-8F (J-8F)

J-8F is a rolling 40-year product development process, and its first operations have already entered the museum objects.

We can look at the F series fighter -8 process ("Modern ships" 2007. 07B began serialization) to see its original design goals: to intercept the U.S. F-4 and B-58 that supersonic fighter planes, bombers. F-4 and then look up the performance, we can find that after 40 years in the development, J-8F finally reached the original design goals, most of the catching performance of the F-4 (load of bombs also fell far behind the F -4; F-4 can carry bombs 7.25 t, J-8M about 4.5 tons, the F-8F should be not far off), and then the object had entered the war museum. Today, we face opponents across two generations of the F-22!

Do not give me any "B-52 is also used for 50 years", B-52 has long been discontinued many years ago, is relying on the ongoing "life extension" process and equipment upgrades before its famed New Year. However, our F-8F is being put into production (H -6 to change, too, follow no "machine" ah)! Production of the aircraft 40 years ago, "life extension" but can be used to today's performance is highly skilled, has anyone heard of a combat aircraft that took 40 years? However, the design of the aircraft 40 years ago today, to mature into production, you can say because it is "too advanced" it?


J -8 entire series fighter is a history behind China's aviation industry on the basis of struggling to "meet" the threat of advanced power struggles, the process is called a "tragic":

Developed since the late 1960s to the mid-1980s, J -8 was finalized, and its performance is not even back 20 years ago, superior;

1984, first flight of the F -8 to 10 years are not stable in the mature range air to air missile radar and use, was the pilot dubbed "Peace Dove"; the middle of the Americans was also "flicker" (ie, suspended in 1989, the "peace paradigm "project), an honest man sent to be demolished over the last two, Chai Wan ridiculed by the Americans was a mess (they taunt was justified, it was the same on the two parts of J -8 parts are not interchangeable use is the fact that exposure Shen Fei very poor level of standardization, the results were F -8 per aircraft could be said to be "hand version", "custom" to; read the "resurrection of the Army," the people understand, two thousand two hundred years ago the Warriors The equipment - the arrow, knife, scabbard - is the world's earliest known standardized, general of the weapons and equipment, unified specifications; the face of the great ancestors were disgrace.)

And help with not a U.S. radar in Russia, with Russian radar equipment in Zhuhai Airshow F-8M exposed his face, unfortunately sold.

Finally changed to the J-8F, were using China-made "Kunlun" engine, domestic (generic) from the active radar and the missile, "glass" cockpit, helmet display, with aerial refueling capability (although the lack of practical tanker , H-6 oil fuel load is too low, only a test value).

J-8F eventually became a machine equipped with three generations of radar, missiles, flight performance with a second generation of "second generation half."

J-8 has finally matured.

Unfortunately, it also left behind!

No matter how to change it, it could not escape the "second generation" for the basic structure. High altitude so that the basic design ideas of three generations of machines do not have the hope to win close combat (we will not mention what four generations of machines); only as a truly national platform for production of medium-air weapons, it has a certain advantage value.

Recently, a "saturated fat" (FBC-1) aerial coverage over J-8F, 8:1 record is not surprising. "Saturated fat" Do not look out of fashion (which is more than three generations of machine), fly fast enough, the flight control system and fire control systems, but cross-linked. In air combat, regardless of the equipment away from the fight (both radar and missile almost) or mobile short-range fight, "saturated fat" has enough capital to deal with the J-8F.

For a fighter, and air was defeated in the same generation ("saturated fat" is three generations of equipment, second-generation body) of the fighter-bombers men, J-8F, you better let me Say what?

What have seen people blow the sea "J-8F to supersonic cruise", "J-8F speeds may reach 3 times the speed of sound", "J-8F to pick the gun F-22" ... ...

I'd understand your desire!

I am afraid designer, I am afraid is simply not considered a possible target of these efforts.

(Even if the J-8F reinvent the wheel, SAC may not be able to design in 10 years or more users desire to meet the aircraft. "Kunlun" engine life, overhaul interval, and much better fuel consumption than the original WP13AII, each engine to increase The 1,000 kg of thrust that can improve flight performance of aircraft and payload, through the installation of the technical and economic reasons have been very good, not for anything impossible "supersonic cruise", "3 times the speed of sound." As for the "pick gun F-22 "? I would! this problem need to ask an expert altar stick with literacy literacy ... ...)

On the air combat capability, payload, range, J-8F miss the "Fierce Dragon", "fat leopard", J-10, Su-27/30 any one; of close combat fighting and cost-effective, J-8F with double delta wing of the J-7G are not as good; of local production, J-7G, and "fat Leopard" is also produced in the country ... ...

J-8F, in addition to the lean of the Shenyang Aircraft (Su-27 series has been completed assembly tasks) job a little dry, you can not be replaced in the end what the production value of the equipment?

Speaking of J-8 series (including J-8, J-8M, J-8D, J-8F and even J-8ACT), there is one thing to mention: the official nickname is the "air looking man!" I do not know SAC (or a route?) To find which Furu name from the acid, I spit spit ah ah did not spit into the habit now!

Made aircraft, I like the J-7G, "saturated fat" and "J -10"; I was flying into a fan of flying and the West, a little view of the Shenyang (of course, hope they live up to expectations, after all, a country) .

Third, the most advanced "tasteless" -022 missile boats

If I will be in front of two weapons as a "chicken" may be part of the "fans" women will be always the case, the 022 missile boats as "tasteless" I'm afraid to stir up public outrage.

Looking back, many users, but the 022 missile boats as the beginning of the Navy leads the world: "the world's first stealth piercing catamaran hull form of the missile boats," "Finally there is a 'people I have' weapons of the" "China's 'LCS'" ... ... and so kind words over the place, when many people think of the tone of the article by 022 survive. Some people can actually put it into a universal myth of weapons, and "long-range raid, hit the aircraft carrier" and the like, humorous. A few days ago has turned hot jars, the article "World-class missile boats caused a huge stir in China", introduced the boat. This article considered to be fairly objective and does not go along with what "remote raid" ... ...

I wonder if there is no one carefully to find out about, thought about it: "Stealth" Who is the most technologically advanced? "Wave-piercing catamaran hull form," the most skillful master who is? Why other countries are not equipped with such a boat? What others have to catch up with China's advanced it?


Comprehensive thinking, is the rational thinking. Several ask why, sometimes you can find a lot of problems.

Wave-piercing catamaran is a catamaran Australia in 1983 the company developed a new type of ship. Americans have bought a large (in the warships in the not too large), for high-speed transport ships ("Pioneer TSV-1X" number), although the superior performance, but still pilot projects. The merits of such gains and losses also need to ship the test of time. The ship of the design, manufacturing technology is introduced (also can not be made large); water jet propulsion system is introduced.

Why has a larger wave-piercing catamarans and more advanced "stealth" technology to engage in what the U.S. does not "stealth missile boats WPC?"

Because it does not need.

U.S. combat forces on the ship mainly by unparalleled air superiority, and even ship-to-ship missiles are not very seriously, and is mainly engaged in coastal defense missile boats is never dismissive. In the Americans: the United States must be defended offshore? Joke! Even if defense, combat radius of air power, the power of mobility and surprise is far above the missile boats.

In other words, not suited to their needs for equipment, the Americans will not be for the equipment and equipment, and then advanced and do not, everything from reality. "Crusaders" advanced, "Comanche" is more advanced (not to mention A-12, YF-23 in this category) and have invested tens, billions of dollars and ten years time, date, world-wide No one beyond; and the Americans soon found that it no longer needs to adapt to the future battlefield, cut it without mercy; never allow a "bite the bullet and do, use your nose" (just like that "A poor" and LCA) situation. Because of this, the U.S. military in the 1970s after the major equipment items, almost all successfully achieved the desired results, and boutique after another.

The United States and Britain compared to a solid foundation of experienced military advanced countries, we are behind the fear much more than technology and processes. I believe the majority of users in encouraging the rapid progress of our army's equipment at the same time, more troops and military administration would like to see a substantial increase in efficiency. Chinese has never lacked for wisdom, now to be extremely rigorous.

Back to the original topic: What China needs missile boats of this ship type it?

First suggest that you look at the "Modern Ships" article "looks beautiful - the value of the new situation of using missile boats", the theme was clear: no, air forces can undertake offshore coastal defense! Moreover, there are bolder disregard of the Chinese shore-based air force, missile boats direct role in the hostile fleet within the context of national fear not! To deal with the threat of missile boats unlikely; the most likely threats (enemy's precision air strike) missile boats can not cope. As for the "long-range raid," is simply impractical; fishing protection escort, low-intensity conflict at sea, missile boats would be inappropriate.

I'm down there one-third reservation to this conclusion because the army's air power much as the U.S. military strong, dramatic coastline, the situation is complex, large and medium alone are not enough sophisticated warships and air force firepower can not fully ensure that China's maritime rights and interests. Moreover, the deterrent effect of aviation is not flexible enough, but the problem cost-effectively.

But at least 022 250-ton missile boats that I stand out: poor battery life, to reach a certain coverage area requires a large number (the number 022 really is more than the construction and equipment very quickly, surprising ), take up a lot of preparation, increased management difficulties and reduce the cost ratio; underachievement, eat oil bombs can not find something to do; air defense is weak, even if the legendary "boat on FLV-1 air defense system" true, it is difficult to set against the opponents "big sea gulls" and other similar missiles, helicopters; the East China Sea that situation, and the "Coast Guard" patrol boats confront it, as does the one (missile boats equipped with the Navy, legal and moral problem), and second, lack of deterrence (physique is too small), three to hand weapons do not say (close standoff missile is waste) ... ... Anyway, no!

Replace the small missile boats, the Chinese police leak should now be filled, the development of 1,500 tons, fully equipped than missile boats, frigates than the simple, can be reduced helicopters (not installed library, as "Burke" did) offshore patrol vessels and offshore dedicated anti-submarine ship.

Speaking of missile boats, we often talked about the following wars:

October 21, 1967, Egypt used Soviet Navy, "Komar" class missile boats, firing four Soviet-made "Styx" anti-ship missiles, Israel's largest warship sunk in one fell swoop, "Eilat" destroyer, the achievements " Mosquitoes play a large ship, "his brother's wife, missile boats off the climax of ... ...

How many people know: "Eilat" is the old battleship of World War II ships, a beard of white from the root, fighting is called a shabby, I am afraid the damage control capabilities have loopholes; missiles and missile boats are then combined with new things, lack of means of defense, before a return to teach missile boats exposed face. Over the past four decades, the situation has undergone great changes. In today's "Phalanx", "goalkeeper", "Hai Lamu" in power, all kinds of interference, against the means of popular today, in order to attack with a large ship-to-ship missiles, unless the short-range submarine underwater launch, the other means of discussion !

In particular, the helicopter, accompanied by "a large sea gull," "Maverick" (also known as "young animals"), "Hellfire" (the "Hellfire") missile, missile boats is simply the natural killer; the Gulf War of 1991 in Iraq is such a destruction of the Clippers. 022 of the "stealth" ability is very vulnerability: wipers, railings, external anchors, multi-rocket nest ... ... bits of fragmented lot, the bridge on top of "pigtails" is also more. Even without these problems, it is not possible "invisible" to the enemy not to be found within 20Km, unless the fishing fleet mix or hide in the back of the island.

Apart from the above that the wars, missile boats was the only Indian wars of the Pakistan Navy! The Pakistani military strength was weak, poorly equipped (and indeed those days almost no effective prevention means). Now get the two wars, especially the specific situation faced by China, the lack of convincing! China's main potential opponent equipped with both a very advanced (that is, not the strength to not eat the support of China and destabilize)!

I am ignorant, the impression in the missile boats of the wars on both "out of print collection," the "only existing copies." To really so, 40 years hundreds of ships launched missile boats countries are relying on a walking advertisement for both the lumbar support. The missile boats industry, are built on the basis of local contingency ah!

Reiterate my point of view: missile boats may not be obsolete in the world, China is "tasteless."

022, famous, in fact, hard to break!

Fourth, gradually falling behind - the "modern" class guided missile destroyer

The outset that "modern" level and above those guys in different situations, the introduction at the beginning, it is not "tasteless"! As the fast development of naval equipment, leaps and bounds, "modern" level gradually, "tasteless", showing a "tasteless" phase. Similarly, also in service, "Luda" class, "Wild World" class Ge Jian, than the "modern" more "tasteless", and now in addition to waiting for conversion, that is, make up the numbers!

"Modern" level in the initial introduction, the Chinese navy shabby, shocking: In addition to 112,113,167, no more than 4,000 tons of "large" for ships of the. This tonnage of warships and combat effectiveness, not as compared to the foreign medium frigate, in particular the lack of regional air defense capability.

"Modern" class in the former Soviet naval battle sequences, not battleships, at best, considered a "pawn." There are people carrier, "Kirov" class, "glorious" level when the mainstay of hundreds of underwater "nuclear fish" cruising; even if the "modern", there are still "fear" with.

A result, one to China, "Modern" immediately Lianshengsanji, Atlas frame is treated as the pillars of the sea, the main fleet. "Aircraft carrier killer" advertising terms such as some users have been the fact that added to the carrying of "sand flies" the missile body. Undeniably, the "sand flies" is a very good missile penetration ability, stronger than the vast majority of our time-to-ship missiles. But to say "aircraft carrier killer" Well ... ... how can a range of 120Km (known as super-improved 200Km) of the missile threat to the outer defensive perimeter 550Km to the aircraft carrier battle group? Even if the "Los Angeles", F/A-18E/F collective drainage, the U.S. military to rely on surface ship self-defense force is sufficient to meet the "sand flies" were. The latest U.S. "Phalanx", "Hai Lamu" twice the speed of sound have been successful intercept test dummy, and a "Hai Lamu" launcher to Beitan 21! Not carrier-based aircraft, one aircraft carrier battle group can be a full-ship missiles intercepted at least 50 more (a "Burke" at the same time to deal with 12 air targets, here by four operators; carrier itself has a "Phalanx" ), all of our "modern" class together, and only 32 "sand flies" What! And the first time our armed forces test-fired two "sand flies" also failed one, its reliability into question.


And the recognition of China's naval experts, and now it seems, the general-to-ship missiles, the general measures on the ship, it is difficult on such a massive aircraft carriers and thousands of armored behemoth compartment pose a deadly threat. Zenith pixia heavy ballistic missiles and submarine torpedo is more effective way.

Compared to "a little about, but without which many" and "sand flies", "modern" level two 9M38 (NATO codename SA-N-7 "Gadfly") air defense missile at the time of epoch-making significance of the Chinese Navy . The first time the Chinese navy has a limited area air defense capability. Compared to the new "standard", "The Gadfly" too close range, much better than none.

My "modern" level two double-AK130 130-mm gun is also very good impression. Many now pay little attention to the role of guns, I think guns shelled the beach in the landing operations in the most appropriate, onto the ship than the temporary army artillery and tanks, the sea rough sea and land is much higher firing accuracy, clear the beach firepower is called a cool! In the low-intensity conflict and confrontation at sea is also more flexible. 054A-class frigate on the latest large-caliber gun shrink that I do not understand most things, although my favorite Chinese warships in the 054A. At 136 ("Hangzhou" number) ships and 137 ("Fuzhou" number) since the ship enter service, the Navy embarked on the construction of equipment, "Hot Wheels." Whether domestic or imported, a lot of new equipment coming down as the Navy's Stomach Falls. Although the years of debt can not be in three to five years to pay off, but the overall cosmetic and have been very different style.

When the introduction of 138 ("Taizhou" number) and 139 ("Ningbo" number) of the news, users have begun to head cooling challenge: even if the new "sand flies" range of over 200Km, even if the "Grizzlies" (SA-N -17) instead of a "gadfly," but also added two "Kashtan" someday, a value of $ 700,000,000 it? Really made our own yards, eclipsing the two chips than it is not a warship it? However, a very short time a large military ship, "walking on two legs" or necessary, there is no better choice of outsourcing, this less get on the trading or do.

Today view: Design in the 1980s "modern" class that is not modern. Entirely without a sense of beauty of the hull and the pile of equipment, outdated and obsolete electronic equipment, weapons, ... ... after 2000, almost all of their own for the construction of warships, in addition to 527/528 numbers do not know how to return the ancestors, can despise the other "modern "one. Even the weakest of the air defense capabilities, 167/525/526 and other ships also left ample room for modification.

"Modern" level, the young "old" soldiers (hull not the old "core" old);

"Modern" level, contemporary Chinese naval warships in the large surface as "returnees" type "Get the lead."

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